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Hi smile,

In newsgroup alt.winsock you wrote:


>> I get a program named ws_ftp. Their are winsock.lib whose length is
>> 1024.  I load ws_ping.prj in Borlnd C++ 4.0. Compling is
>> sucessful. But linking failed. Why? How to link winsock.lib or
>> winsock.dll? It shows socket,sento, ,etc are undefined symbol.

>> Thanks.

I replied to this query before, but I have since been contacted by
(Adrian Dawson ???) at ICL in the UK who suggests that your problem
may be to do with the context sensitivity of the linker. He asked me
to post this reply as currently he can not.

I hope that this is of some help to you.

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Subject: Re: telnet program wanted

Dean Roth <[e-mail]> writes:


>I need a telnet program.

>I've tried QVT, but it will not work with my laptop. QVT forces NUM_LOCK
                                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I just wanted to let you know that if you modify the qvtnet.ini file, you
can set qvt to NOT force num-lock on.  That was very frustrating for ME
also.  Here's what it'll look like:
;
; nl_mode
;
; Should <NumLock> key be forced ON or left alone
;
nl_mode=unlock

Just wanted to put my 2% of a dollar in...(grin)

Mark McDowell <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: SOCK_DGRAM support in WinSock

:    Can any one tell me if SOCK_DGRAM protocol is supported by
:    AND are there any WinSock suppliers that support SOCK_DGRAM?

We have tested a few suppliers for this:

1) IBM TCP/IP for DOS 2.1.1

Really excellent WINSOCK implementation if you ignore their
applications (like telnet). It received 100% of our UDP(DGRAM) broadcasts.
What a surprise.

2) FTP PC/TCP 2.3

Misses 20-30% of broadcasts - OK, I know UDP is not guaranteed
but if the IBM software can receive all of them, why can't FTP?
(Note: we haven't tried the new DLL from them yet)

3) Frontier

First version we had  locked up, gave up after that.

4) Fusion

Intermittent lockups, didn't support ODI, returned a not supported
on our first WINSOCK call...

5) MS NT TCP/IP

Works fine but slow.

6) Novell LWP 4.12

Didn't receive any, maybe we had a subnet mask problem or something?

Incidentally we had a problem with doing a SOCK_DGRAM broadcast from NT,
but Microsoft was able to resolve this as something different in the way
NT works. We're having to do a setSockOpt of something to make it happen
now. (hmm...)

YMMV

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Subject: Re: Chameleon Problem ... the future of DOS/Win TCP/IP?




In article <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> writes:
>
> I won't recommend any TSR- or DLL-based TCP/IP stack that
> doesn't lead to a VxD implementation.  See this week's PCWEEK
> for an excellent summary of Frontier's VxD thingy.  Among other
> things, a proper VxD stack should use 0K of lower memory, should
> be faster than DLLs, has 32-bit code, works in a DOS window, and
> will result in reduced network loads versus DLL-based setups.
> Sounds great!
>

There seems to be a VxD implementation available as freeware
in alpha and beta versions. I haven't had the time to test it yet
but thought I should bring it to your attention. The following is
an excerpt from the author's INSTALL.DOC:

"    VxDTCP - A VxD based TCP/IP Stack for Windows 3.1 - Alpha2
            Jagane D Sundar

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

    ****** PLEASE NOTE THE CHANGE OF NAME: *******
What was released as WINTCP alpha1 has been renamed to VxDTCP
from alpha 2 onwards. Thanks to fellow-netter
Warner Losh([e-mail]), I came to know that
WIN/TCP is a registered trademark of Wollongong.  Confident
that mine is the only VxD implementation of TCP, I am calling
my stack VxDTCP. So there...
*************************************************************

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

VxDTCP is a winsock implementation for Windows 3.1. It uses a radically
new approach in that the protocol stack is implemented as a VxD and
the accompanying winsock.dll simply provides a way for applications
to talk to the VxD. In addition the TCP/IP protocol layer is implemented
using the industry standard Net/2 Release of UCB.

All Aplha and Beta versions are free. The end product will include NFS
client support and will be some form of inexpensive shareware. All Alpha,
Beta testers will essentially get the software free for life including all
real releases.

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

FEATURES ADDED IN ALPHA 2:
    - DNS Support.
    - ODI, packet driver support. (in addition to NDIS support already

present)
    - AsyncSelect message bugs fixed.
    - Some interrupt handler code pages locked in memory.

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

REQUIREMENTS:

Following are the requirement to install VxDTCP.
    1) ***** YOU MUST BE RUNNING WINDOWS IN 386 Enhanced mode. *****
    2) You must be prepared to configure your network software by hand as
       BOOTP support is lacking in this release.

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

FEATURES MISSING:

    1) The AsyncGetXbyY routines are not yet done. Blocking versions of the
       same have been implemented with information taken from local files,
       except for hostname information, which is obtained using DNS.
    2) BOOTP support for configuration is not supported.

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

PERFORMANCE:

    The major advantage of implementing the TCP/IP Protocol stack as a VxD
    is speed. Although I have spent little time tuning the VxD for speed, I
    can already beat the performance of many commercial vendors.

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

TESTED APPLICATIONS:

    Although VxDTCP does not come with any applications I have succesfully
tested it with the following packages.

    WinQVT/v3.8:
        Telnet and ftp clients work fine.
        The ftp/rcp servers seem to be a little flaky.
    Trumpet for Winsock.
        Works fine.
    finger31:
        Works fine."

I got my copy by anonymous ftp from Netcom ftp.netcom.com in directory
/pub/jagane as the file vxdtcpa2.zip.

If anyone out there has had experience with this winsock, how do you
like it?

Douglas W. Jones ([e-mail])
   No opinions expressed or implied...
       but if I do they're strictly mine alone.
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Subject: UPLOADED Winsock Applications


To All Alt.Winsock Readers:

     I have uploaded the following Winsock applications to the CICA
archive at winftp.cica.indiana.edu.  They are currently in the "/uploads"
dir. but I anticipate that they will be moved to the "/pub/pc/win3/winsock"
directory.  The last file (DIR10.ZIP) may be moved to the "/misc" dir.
because it is an Internet help file, and not a Winsock application per se.
Most of these applications I have gleemed from exploring around Internet,
and don't seem to be widely available at the standard archive sites.  Enjoy!

Cheers from Canada!  Richard MacLennan  [e-mail]

BCGOPHER.ZIP, .TXT - Fast Gopher client developed by Boston College
COL_12B1.ZIP, .TXT - Collage: Collaborate on graphics & music thru Internet
TEKTEL1A.ZIP, .TXT - Tektronix Terminal 4100 Emulation
TRMPTEL.ZIP, .TXT  - Better VT100 Terminal emulation for Trumpet Winsock
WINELM.ZIP, .TXT   - WinElm e-mail client, with MIME (graphics) capability
WINGP.ZIP, .TXT    - Win GreenPages: environmental database on Internet
WINPANDA.ZIP, .TXT - Integrated TCP/IP client - FTP, E-mail, Gopher & News
WSATEST.ZIP, .TXT  - Windows Sockets test program (handy for IP addressing)
BSDCHAT.EXE, .TXT  - Winsock Talk client compatible with Berkley sockets
DIR10.ZIP, .TXT    - RE-upload of extensive Internet help file (18K+ pages)
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Subject: Re: Oracle SQL*Net and Trumpet Winsock

In article <2m381q$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Stacy Seah) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Stacy Seah)
>Subject: Re: Oracle SQL*Net and Trumpet Winsock
>Date: 15 Mar 1994 02:54:50 GMT

>I tried the same thing. Doesn't work.
>According to the Oracle local support, it's a Corporate decision
>that they will not support public domain TCP/IP stacks such as Trumpet.
>Although Oracle said SQL*Net is Winsock compliant, it'll only run on the
>5 TCP/IP stacks listed in the SQL*Net installation manual. *sigh*

I have v1.1 of SQL*Net TCP/IP for windows and it works fine with the trumpet
winsock (using the generic winsock driver, see the manuals).

>Can u keep me posted if u do find something ? I'll like to get this
>working too.

Email me if you have questions

Michael


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Subject: Re: Oracle SQL*Net and Trumpet Winsock

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Todd Young) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Todd Young)
>Subject: Re: Oracle SQL*Net and Trumpet Winsock
>Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 18:54:34 GMT

>Oracles SQLNET for DOS as well as the Windows Version, both require
>a complete TCP kernel installed.

True for DOS, for windows I disagree, the trumpet winsock can run on the
packet driver, no separate TCP/IP stack needed. SQL*Net works fine with the
trumpet winsock (use the generic winsock driver).

>I tried running the Trumpet kernel with it and it Croaked big time.
>I am not blaming Trumpet for this, I think SQLNET it a 'Technically
>Challenged' product. It needs a total re-design to run well with
>Windows, and this has not been done.

We have it working quite reliably using ODAPI, ODBC and native Oracle
connections, sounds like the problem might be something else, do all other
winsock apps run smoothly?
We're using token ring based IPX and ipxpkt with winpkt to tunnel TCP/IP and
peter tattums trumpet winsock works fine, in fact better than all commercial
implementations we've tried sofar... :-)

Michael



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Subject: MOSAIC NEWSGROUP!


The University of Illinois has setup a newsgroup devoted specifically to
Mosaic related topics.

We are in the process of creating FAQ's for machine specific versions,  http server sites, Add-on products available, FTP sites, and general Mosaic frequently asked questions.

Any help at this point would be GREATLY appreciated. Winsock newgroup readers have a lot of knowledge which could be shared by unknowing Mosaic users out there. So, please send any questions, answers, and comments to:

        uiuc.sw.mosaic

Alex Zoghlin
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Subject: Dogfight

i just got a program called dogfight (although dog.exe is the executable)
and it says its a flight sim. with head to head capabilities via. the internet
with ip address. it says todo this you need to put these address in your tcpip
ini file.
has anyone gotten this prg. to work? how do you get it to work in 1 player
mode? where do you edit the tcpip stuff so its netable? etc...
if anyone knows anything i would aperciate it if you could inform me.
thanks in advance

-Sargon                                  Ftp for windows and winsock files
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Subject: Re: Qvt/Trumpet wsk problems


In a previous article, Dennis Sutherland () says:

>We are having problems with our Qvtnet and/or Trumpet winsock.dll.
>We have had relatively little trouble with it until we upgraded
>Qvtnet to version 3.97.  At that point we started seeing strange problems:
> [.. deleted ..]
>All of this was weird, but it got weirder.  Assuming that 3.97
>was just buggy, I reinstalled 3.96.  The problems remained.  I
>reinstalled twsk10a.  The problems remained.
>I am sure that I am missing something, but I don't know where it is.
>

Did you delete the entire 3.97 distribution before reinstalling
3.96?  And are you using exactly the same version of 3.96 as you
initially were.  3.96 went from 3.96 upto 3.96.4

Later,
Ashok
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Subject: Transfer rate...


OK. I get about a 1.4Kbs transfer rate using the ftp client on winapps.zip.
I have an Intel 14.4 modem and I run winsock off a school SLIP connection.
Will Van Jacobsen's cslip really help ?? If so where the heck is it ???
Ive tried Veronica and Archie and I get zilch. Let me know if there's
anything else thatll speed up my transfers. Thanks


                               nanda


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